{"id":13407,"date":"2020-08-04T12:40:34","date_gmt":"2020-08-04T16:40:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/?p=13407"},"modified":"2020-08-16T17:01:34","modified_gmt":"2020-08-16T21:01:34","slug":"6-signs-your-crypto-is-gone-baby-gone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/6-signs-your-crypto-is-gone-baby-gone\/","title":{"rendered":"6 Signs Your Crypto Is Gone BABY GONE"},"content":{"rendered":"
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I own the cryptocurrencies I mention. Err, I used<\/u><\/b> to own the crypto until I lost it all at WireX App<\/i><\/b><\/div>\n
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By Larry Chiang<\/div>\n
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This article is too long don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t read. I parked crypto at WireX. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s gone. <\/div>\n
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Sure it sucks for me, but maybe you will understand that as per Nick Szabo, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153trusted third parties are the security hole\u00e2\u20ac\u009d. <\/div>\n
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Here are the six signs your crypto is gone in one nutshell. <\/div>\n
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Emails, Twitter DM\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s, support ticket numbers inside ZenDesk, <\/span>My Lost Crypto, a Request for Postal Mail, <\/span>and a New MD in America Named Harold Montgomery. They all do not help. This England startup WireX has lost all of my crypto. <\/div>\n
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#1 Sign Your Crypto Is GONE: Harold Montgomery. <\/b><\/div>\n
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Let\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s start with the only potentially real thing about WireX: Pavel Matveev hiring Harold Montgomery. <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\nHoward Montgomery requires WireX customers in America to send paper mail to the UK\n
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They announced the hire on Twitter<\/div>\n
You\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d think as part of the launch, they would reach out to the Silicon Valley community. But instead, they retreat into asking for postal mail<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\nPavel Matveev and Harold Montgomery require you to send postal mail for customer service with WiteX\n
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They keep saying \u00e2\u20ac\u0153support ticket number<\/i><\/b>\u00e2\u20ac\u009d as if the outsourced customer service company is trying to risk mitigate fraud by being purposefully obtuse. <\/div>\n
#2 Sign Your Crypto Is Gone: Requests for postal mail<\/b><\/div>\n
I know the UK calls the Revolutionary War the civil War they lost but postal mail is so Old Skool<\/div>\n
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But alas, I really want my $1,000 – $488,000 in crypto back so I drafted a letter <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWireX Crypto app, 34-37 Liverpool St, \n
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with the appropriate postage which is $1.20 from America to WireX Crypto, 34-37 Liverpool St, <\/div>\n
London EC2M7PP U.K.<\/div>\n
Subj: lost crypto funds @wireXapp Pavel Matveev and Harold Montgomery <\/div>\n
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The CEO, Pavel Matveev, has been unresponsive And remains in the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153not yet responded mode\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/div>\n
The robot replies from ZenDesk WireX are semi responsive in an intermittent fashion  <\/div>\n
7\/2\/2020 problem. Still unresolved 08-04-2020<\/div>\n
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<\/td>\nLarry Chiang 🔴🔴🔴 650-283-8008 (@LarryChiang<\/a>)<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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.<\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@wirexapp\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a>. I am having a problem swapping LTC for ETH. My email is <\/a>Lawrence.chiang+accenture@gmail.com<\/a><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

#3 Sign Your Crypto Is Gone:<\/b> <\/p>\n<\/div>\n

You can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t sell your ethereum (aka Ether, also known as $ETH) because the trading buttons do not work after you login and after you jump through every KYC protocol. <\/div>\n
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Twitter DMs were to no avail <\/div>\n
#6] Signs Your Crypto Is Gone: You are having to write a WordPress blog post<\/div>\n
WordPress is the final ditch hope to notify wrongdoers via gmail keyword alert. <\/div>\n
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<\/td>\nCEO of Duck9, Larry at (650) 283-8008 (@6502838008<\/a>)<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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<\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@LarryChiang\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@wirexapp\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@matveevp\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> Pick up the phone and call your customer who has lost a lot of crypto <\/p>\n
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650-283-8008<\/p>\n

Larry Chiang<\/p>\n

CEO <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@duck9\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/p>\n

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Dust off those #10 envelopes if you have a WireX account with more than four figures BECAUSE NOW YOURE A JUICY TARGET<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\nLost crypto at WireX App, 34-37 Liverpool St, \n
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#5] Signs Your Crypto Is Gone: You are having to Telephone MasterCard <\/div>\n

MasterCard 🇺🇸 {pending} partnership with WireX<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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<\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@6502838008\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@matveevp\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@LarryChiang\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> Hello there. If you are having any issues with your Wirex account, please provide me with your support ticket number\/username (direct message)\/details of your issue and I will try to get a resolution ASAP. <\/p>\n
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MasterCard and visa, prepare for merchant disputes, third party sketch and a whole host of \u00e2\u20ac\u0153#Fyre\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/div>\n
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8\/2\/20, 7:28 AM<\/a><\/div>\n
<\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@matveevp\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@wirexapp\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a crime to destroy USA mail!!👀<\/p>\n
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Having a month long problem w\/WireX App. They\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve just taken my crypto!!<\/p>\n

wireX solution is to have me in 🇺🇸 mail POSTAL mail to the UK. Harold Montgomery, WireX.<\/p>\n

cc <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@SDNYnews\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@chesaboudin\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@KenPaxtonTX\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> #cs183law<\/a><\/p>\n

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Wirex announced that Harold Montgomery has joined the company as Managing Director of Wirex USA.
\nzpr.io\/HRcLF<\/a>#Fintech<\/a> #Data<\/a> #Datascience<\/a> #Analytics<\/a>#fintechlife<\/a> #Banking<\/a> #Bank<\/a> #FintechFinance<\/a>#Lendtech<\/a> #knowyourcustomer<\/a> #KYB<\/a> #Regtech<\/a>#Compliance<\/a> #Credit<\/a> #SME<\/a> #CrossB<\/a><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n
#4] Signs Your Crypto Is Gone: You have to memorize support ticket numbers, 1492837. <\/span><\/div>\n
What They DO Teach You at Stanford Engineering = “customer development cycle”. If a customer has a complaint, do not water it down by assigning a customer support ticket number. Handle the complaint head on.<\/div>\n
It’s a cliche mistake to pretend to be big.<\/div>\n
It’s a cliche mistake to add layers between a VIP customer and front line employees.<\/div>\n
It’s a mistake to offer up “business@wirexapp.com” as a depersonalized method of access. Just be Pavel Matveev at ‘Company-That-Pretends’ dot com<\/div>\n
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<\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@matveevp\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@wirexapp\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> So slow in responding as a UK company \u00e2\u20ac\u0153ceo\u00e2\u20ac\u009d is pretending to not see a 🐳 having a whale of a problem<\/p>\n
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Meanwhile, my friend \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcJeff <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@amazon\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> dot com\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 responded and tracked down a bed going #330Spring<\/a> Street. <\/a>\u00e2\u0081\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00aa@SDNYnews\u00e2\u20ac\u00ac\u00e2\u0081\u00a9<\/a> <\/p>\n

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Solution: Avoid WireX<\/span><\/div>\n
Solution: just use Barry Silbert\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s $GDLC <\/span><\/div>\n

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Q: Larry Chiang, you sounds like you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re joking because this post is hilarious <\/span><\/div>\n

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Larry Chiang answer: That sounds more like a statement than a question. <\/div>\n
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Larry Chiang answer: Yes. And technically I lost currency. Real money is gold and silver. <\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Larry Chiang answer: oh, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m mad AF. But in order to get anyone to listen, you gotta be funny. <\/div>\n
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Larry Chiang answer: I heard it from Jeff Berwick, dollar Vigilante. I would seriously question any recommendation from him now and forever. My signing up to WireX is the only piece of advice of his that I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve taken action on. It worked okay until my wealth de la crypto got really SWOLLEN <\/div>\n
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Larry Chiang answer: Maybe. In the past, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m 9 for 9 in court. <\/div>\n
Plus, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m a positive guy. I believe in karma. I also believe that since all the money I lost was \u00e2\u20ac\u0153house money\u00e2\u20ac\u009d. Money was just mine to temporarily steward. Currency is like air, it blows in and blows me like Thermo Dynamics <\/div>\n
I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll probably get this all back in 10 years when the technology is able to \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcforensically crypto extraction off the sub circle ledger\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 and it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll be worth \u00c2\u00a330,000,000 {2020 pounds [\u00c2\u00a3]}<\/div>\n
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FTC Disclosure: I own the cryptocurrencies I mention. Err, I used to own the crypto until I lost it all at WireX App By Larry Chiang This article is too long don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t read. I parked crypto at WireX. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s gone.  Sure it sucks for me, but maybe you will understand that as per Nick Szabo, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153trusted […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[80,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13407","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-deep-undergrad-crypto-knowledge-9","category-stanford-engineering"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13407","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13407"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13407\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13407"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13407"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13407"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}