{"id":32079,"date":"2025-02-19T16:58:54","date_gmt":"2025-02-19T16:58:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/?p=32079"},"modified":"2025-02-19T17:16:20","modified_gmt":"2025-02-19T21:16:20","slug":"so-women-dont-actually-like-making-the-first-move","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/so-women-dont-actually-like-making-the-first-move\/","title":{"rendered":"So Women Don&#8217;t Actually Like Making the First Move!?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"postie-post\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/briannorgard\/status\/1892008453482205223?s=43\"><\/p>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" width=\"500\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\" style=\"border: 1px solid rgb(204, 214, 221); border-radius: 12px;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"3\" height=\"12\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"18\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px; min-width: 18px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" width=\"464\" align=\"left\">\n<tbody>\n<tr valign=\"top\">\n<td width=\"48\" valign=\"top\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/briannorgard?s=43\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/1fae6073057ae5725bebbc0815c0123d_normal.jpeg\" height=\"48\" width=\"48\" style=\"border-radius: 50%; padding: 0px;\" alt=\"1fae6073057ae5725bebbc0815c0123d_normal.jpeg\"><\/a><\/td>\n<td width=\"8\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px; min-width: 8px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/spacer-1.png\" width=\"8\" alt=\"spacer.png\"><\/td>\n<td valign=\"middle\" width=\"388\" style=\"min-width: 388px;\">\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" width=\"388\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" width=\"388\"><b><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/briannorgard?s=43\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; color: rgb(41, 44, 47); text-decoration: none;\">Norgard<\/a><\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/briannorgard?s=43\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(126, 140, 152);\">\u2066\u202a@BrianNorgard\u202c\u2069<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"20\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/logo_twitter-1497383721365-1.png\" height=\"20\" width=\"24\" alt=\"logo_twitter-1497383721365.png\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"9\" colspan=\"4\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/spacer_464x1-1582829598167-1.png\" width=\"464\" height=\"1\" alt=\"spacer_464x1-1582829598167.png\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; color: rgb(41, 44, 47); font-size: 18px; line-height: 24px;\">In 2021 Bumble\u2019s market capitalization was $14B, today it\u2019s worth $915M.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"3\" colspan=\"4\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/briannorgard\/status\/1892008453482205223?s=43\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; color: rgb(102, 119, 133); font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-decoration: none;\">2\/18\/25, 6:29\u202fPM<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"18\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px; min-width: 18px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"3\" height=\"12\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/a><\/div>\n<p><br id=\"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature\"><\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">Bumble was never about real innovation\u2014it was a cash grab IPO built on a fake narrative. The company targeted elite metropolitan markets\u2014NYC, SF, London, Paris, Frankfurt\u2014assuming high-status professionals in tech, finance, and media would adopt it. But the entire premise was laughably outdated. In places like Manhattan, dating has always been about networking, power, and direct access to high-value individuals. The exact people Bumble wanted\u2014finance sharks, tech nerds, influencers\u2014aren\u2019t sitting around on a slow, gimmicky app waiting for a forced first move. They\u2019re already finding dates on LinkedIn (career-driven circles), Twitter (intellectuals and nerds), and IG (models, socialites, and the fancy crowd).<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">Bumble was built on delusion and zero understanding of its own market. It tried to sell itself as the future of dating, but it was outdated from day one. This nonsense about \u201cwomen message first\u201d wasn\u2019t some revolutionary idea\u2014Manhattan was already doing this in the \u201890s. The worst part? The very cities they targeted\u2014NYC, SF, London\u2014are places where efficiency and speed matter. High-value individuals don\u2019t wait around on an app that moves at a snail\u2019s pace. They network their way into relationships because that\u2019s how actual power dynamics work in elite social circles. Bumble failed to grasp this basic reality and instead doubled down on a business model that was doomed from the start.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">And when the 2021 bubble popped, reality hit like a freight train. Weak user growth, pathetic monetization, and absolute domination from Tinder and Hinge exposed the company\u2019s incompetence. Bumble BFF and Bumble Biz? Complete failures. They tried to branch out but had no understanding of how real friendships or business relationships actually form. The stock collapsed because once the easy-money era ended, investors saw it for what it really was\u2014just another overhyped tech scam.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">And let\u2019s talk about the clowns running this company. Bumble\u2019s leadership is a joke\u2014a bunch of average, privileged trust-fund types with zero business instincts. They had no vision, no real innovation, and no ability to execute. Just IPO hype, cashing out at the top, and leaving retail investors to get slaughtered. Absolute textbook incompetence.<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/raza_siavo\/status\/1892151659758760205?s=43\"><\/p>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" width=\"500\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\" style=\"border: 1px solid rgb(204, 214, 221); border-radius: 12px;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"3\" height=\"12\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"18\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px; min-width: 18px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" width=\"464\" align=\"left\">\n<tbody>\n<tr valign=\"top\">\n<td width=\"48\" valign=\"top\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/raza_siavo?s=43\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/wlrJuQxk_normal.jpg\" height=\"48\" width=\"48\" alt=\"wlrJuQxk_normal.jpg\" style=\"border-radius: 50%; padding: 0px;\"><\/a><\/td>\n<td width=\"8\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px; min-width: 8px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/spacer-2.png\" width=\"8\" alt=\"spacer.png\"><\/td>\n<td valign=\"middle\" width=\"388\" style=\"min-width: 388px;\">\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" width=\"388\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" width=\"388\"><b><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/raza_siavo?s=43\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; color: rgb(41, 44, 47); text-decoration: none;\">Ovais Raza<\/a><\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/raza_siavo?s=43\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(126, 140, 152);\">\u2066\u202a@raza_siavo\u202c\u2069<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"20\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/logo_twitter-1497383721365-2.png\" height=\"20\" width=\"24\" alt=\"logo_twitter-1497383721365.png\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"9\" colspan=\"4\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/spacer_464x1-1582829598167-2.png\" width=\"464\" height=\"1\" alt=\"spacer_464x1-1582829598167.png\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; color: rgb(41, 44, 47); font-size: 18px; line-height: 24px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/BrianNorgard\">\u2066\u202a@BrianNorgard\u202c\u2069<\/a>&nbsp;Bumble was never about real innovation\u2014it was a cash grab IPO built on a fake narrative. The company targeted elite metropolitan markets\u2014NYC, SF, London, Paris, Frankfurt\u2014assuming high-status professionals in tech, finance, and media would adopt it. But the entire premise was<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"3\" colspan=\"4\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/raza_siavo\/status\/1892151659758760205?s=43\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; color: rgb(102, 119, 133); font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-decoration: none;\">2\/19\/25, 3:58\u202fAM<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"18\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px; min-width: 18px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"3\" height=\"12\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/a><\/div>\n<p><br id=\"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature\"><\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">Sent<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/4ormund\/status\/1892165088804479421?s=43\"><\/p>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" style=\"border:1px solid #ccd6dd; border-radius: 12px;\" width=\"500\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"3\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\" height=\"12\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"18\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px; min-width: 18px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" width=\"464\" align=\"left\">\n<tbody>\n<tr valign=\"top\">\n<td width=\"48\" valign=\"top\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/4ormund?s=43\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/profile_images\/1868700363248844801\/JK1NyJj-_normal.jpg\" style=\"border-radius: 50%; padding: 0px;\" height=\"48\" width=\"48\" data-unique-identifier=\"\"><\/a><\/td>\n<td width=\"8\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px; min-width:8px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ea.twimg.com\/email\/self_serve\/media\/spacer.png\" width=\"8\" data-unique-identifier=\"\"><\/td>\n<td valign=\"middle\" width=\"388\" style=\"min-width: 388px;\">\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" width=\"388\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" width=\"388\"><b><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/4ormund?s=43\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; color: #292c2f; text-decoration: none;\">Paul Warren (&#x1f39f;&#xfe0f;)<\/a><\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/4ormund?s=43\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-decoration: none; color: #7e8c98;\">\u2066\u202a@4ormund\u202c\u2069<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"20\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ea.twimg.com\/email\/self_serve\/media\/logo_twitter-1497383721365.png\" height=\"20\" width=\"24\" data-unique-identifier=\"\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"9\" colspan=\"4\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height:0px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ea.twimg.com\/self_serve\/media\/spacer_464x1-1582829598167.png\" width=\"464\" height=\"1\" data-unique-identifier=\"\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif;color: #292c2f; font-size: 18px; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: none;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/BrianNorgard\">\u2066\u202a@BrianNorgard\u202c\u2069<\/a> so women don&#8217;t actually like making the first move?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"3\" colspan=\"4\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height:0px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/4ormund\/status\/1892165088804479421?s=43\" style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, san-serif;color: #667785; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-decoration:none;\">2\/19\/25, 4:51\u202fAM<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"18\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px; min-width: 18px;\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"3\" style=\"font-size: 0px; line-height: 0px;\" height=\"12\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/a><\/div>\n<p><br id=\"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature\"><\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"image0.jpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/image0-21.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"image1.png\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/image1-5.png\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Norgard \u2066\u202a@BrianNorgard\u202c\u2069 In 2021 Bumble\u2019s market capitalization was $14B, today it\u2019s worth $915M. &nbsp; 2\/18\/25, 6:29\u202fPM &nbsp; &nbsp; Bumble was never about real innovation\u2014it was a cash grab IPO built on a fake narrative. The company targeted elite metropolitan markets\u2014NYC, SF, London, Paris, Frankfurt\u2014assuming high-status professionals in tech, finance, and media would adopt [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":32080,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32079","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32079","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32079"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32079\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/32080"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32079"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32079"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32079"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}