{"id":38930,"date":"2026-07-13T19:48:21","date_gmt":"2026-07-13T19:48:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/?p=38930"},"modified":"2026-07-13T15:48:45","modified_gmt":"2026-07-13T19:48:45","slug":"high-pressure-looping","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/high-pressure-looping\/","title":{"rendered":"high-pressure looping"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"postie-post\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">High pH condensation (alkaline condensate) primarily risks damaging copper or copper-alloy components in a nuclear submarine\u2019s secondary steam\/condensate system, though overall high pH is generally beneficial for controlling corrosion in ferrous materials.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">Nuclear submarines (like other PWR naval reactors) use a <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">primary high-pressure coolant loop<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\"> (pressurized water reactor) and a <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">secondary loop<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\"> that generates steam for turbines\/propulsion and then condenses it back to feedwater. Water chemistry is tightly controlled in both, but the secondary\/condensate system is where \u201ccondensation\u201d issues arise most directly. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.epa.gov\/radtown\/nuclear-submarines-and-aircraft-carriers\"><span>epa.gov<\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 16px 0px 12px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">Why High pH Is Usually Targeted (Protective Effects)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px 24.2px;text-indent: -16.3px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">\u2022&nbsp; In secondary systems, operators aim for elevated pH (often ~9.0\u201310+ at 25\u00b0C, depending on materials) using volatile amines (e.g., ammonia, morpholine, or ETA) to minimize <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">flow-accelerated corrosion (FAC)<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\"> of carbon steel piping and components. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.antinternational.com\/docs\/samples\/CCC\/02\/04-sswc_sample_report.pdf\"><span>antinternational.com<\/span><\/a>&nbsp; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tandfonline.com\/doi\/full\/10.1080\/00223131.2013.773171\"><span>tandfonline.com<\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px 24.2px;text-indent: -16.3px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">\u2022&nbsp; Higher pH reduces general corrosion and iron transport into steam generators (or equivalent), lowering fouling, deposits, and radiation fields from activated corrosion products.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px 24.2px;text-indent: -16.3px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">\u2022&nbsp; Low pH condensate (from dissolved CO\u2082 forming carbonic acid, or oxygen ingress) is far more problematic, causing widespread thinning, pitting, and failures in iron\/steel lines.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 16px 0px 12px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">Negative Effects of <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">Excessively<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\"> High pH Condensation<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">Excessively high pH (or poor control leading to localized alkaline conditions in condensate) can cause issues, especially in mixed-material systems common in submarines:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px 24.2px;text-indent: -16.3px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">\u2022&nbsp; <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">Copper and brass alloy attack<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">: Many submarines use copper-nickel alloys or admiralty brass in condensers, heat exchangers, or tubing. High pH (especially &gt;~9.5 in the presence of ammonia or low alkalinity) promotes <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">pitting corrosion<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\"> or selective leaching (e.g., dezincification in brass). Ammonia can form soluble copper complexes, accelerating dissolution. Condensed high-pH water exacerbates this in cooler sections where steam condenses<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px 24.2px;text-indent: -16.3px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">\u2022&nbsp; <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">Potential for stress corrosion cracking (SCC) or other localized damage<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">: In crevices or under deposits, high pH can concentrate alkalis, contributing to SCC in susceptible alloys (though this is more documented in primary systems or specific conditions).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px 24.2px;text-indent: -16.3px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">\u2022&nbsp; <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">Operational impacts<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">: Increased copper ions in condensate can transport to steam generators, causing fouling or tube corrosion there. In submarines, this affects efficiency, reliability, and stealth (noise\/vibration from degraded components). Extreme cases could lead to leaks or reduced plant performance during long submerged patrols. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0149197019300356\"><span>science-direct<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 16px 0px 12px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">Context-Specific Risks in Submarines<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px 24.2px;text-indent: -16.3px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">\u2022&nbsp; <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">Space\/compact design<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">: Limited access for maintenance means chemistry upsets (e.g., from amine overfeed, condenser leaks, or poor deaeration) are harder to correct quickly. Condensate quality directly impacts the closed-loop secondary system.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px 24.2px;text-indent: -16.3px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">\u2022&nbsp; <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">Primary side note<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">: Primary coolant uses high pH (via LiOH or KOH with boric acid) to minimize corrosion and activation. Too-high lithium can accelerate zirconium cladding corrosion, but this isn\u2019t \u201ccondensation\u201d\u2014it\u2019s bulk coolant. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/abs\/pii\/S0010938X25005232\"><span>sciencedirect.com<\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px 24.2px;text-indent: -16.3px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">\u2022&nbsp; <\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">Humidity\/atmospheric condensation inside the hull<\/span><span style=\"font-family:\">: Not typically \u201chigh pH,\u201d but any alkaline moisture (e.g., from system leaks) could corrode electronics, wiring, or exposed metals in the confined, humid environment.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><span style=\"font-family:\">In practice, naval nuclear propulsion maintains strict chemistry specs (monitored continuously) to balance these risks\u2014high pH is a tool for protection, but deviations (too high or too low) are managed to avoid material degradation. Low pH or oxygen-related issues are historically more common concerns in condensate systems.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px 0px 8px;font-style: normal;line-height: normal;font-family:\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/larrychiang\/status\/1333956290662555648?s=43&amp;t=NipKy21fekvPoZS5MA8-lQ\">https:\/\/x.com\/larrychiang\/status\/1333956290662555648?s=43&amp;t=NipKy21fekvPoZS5MA8-lQ<\/a><\/div>\n<p><br id=\"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature\"><\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span>WordPress\u2019d from my personal iPhone,&nbsp;<a href=\"tel:650-283-8008\" dir=\"ltr\">650-283-8008<\/a>, number that&nbsp;Steve Jobs texted me on<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div><font color=\"#000000\"><span>https:\/\/www.YouTube.com\/watch?v=ejeIz4EhoJ0<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 13pt\"><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>High pH condensation (alkaline condensate) primarily risks damaging copper or copper-alloy components in a nuclear submarine\u2019s secondary steam\/condensate system, though overall high pH is generally beneficial for controlling corrosion in ferrous materials. Nuclear submarines (like other PWR naval reactors) use a primary high-pressure coolant loop (pressurized water reactor) and a secondary loop that generates steam [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38930","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38930","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=38930"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38930\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=38930"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=38930"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=38930"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}