{"id":6993,"date":"2016-03-04T21:39:22","date_gmt":"2016-03-05T01:39:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/?p=6993"},"modified":"2016-03-05T00:48:21","modified_gmt":"2016-03-05T04:48:21","slug":"saying-no-to-vc-11-20x","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/saying-no-to-vc-11-20x\/","title":{"rendered":"Saying No to VC 11-20x"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div>By Larry Chiang<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Venture capital seems awesome. Like all houses, house has set the rules to win.&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Thus, we wanna play with house money.&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Does that seem contradictory!?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Here is what I mean:<\/p>\n<table style=\"border: 1px solid black; padding: 8px;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr valign=\"bottom\">\n<td width=\"48\"><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/profile_images\/613751289587957760\/ZN0VKUOa_normal.jpg\" style=\"width: 48px; height: 48px; padding-right: 8px;\"><\/span><\/td>\n<td><b style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\">Larry Chiang (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/larrychiang?refsrc=email&amp;s=11\">@LarryChiang<\/a>)<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"2\">\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/larrychiang\/status\/705921427946414080?refsrc=email&amp;s=11\" style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><font color=\"#000000\">3\/4\/16, 5:02 PM<\/font><\/a><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\">I am advising&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23SayingNoToVc&amp;src=hash\">#SayingNoToVc<\/a>&nbsp;at least 11-20x before you later say yes<br \/>cc:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcusnelson\">@marcusnelson<\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23sxsw&amp;src=hash\">#sxsw<\/a>.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><br \/>When you NEED the money, do not pitch VC. Sound familiar!? If you need cash, do not use your credit card. Let me repeat, don&#8217;t pitch VCs if it&#8217;s your first startup<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<table style=\"border: 1px solid black; padding: 8px;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr valign=\"bottom\">\n<td width=\"48\"><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/profile_images\/658686593851457536\/jDLBS28c_normal.jpg\" style=\"width: 48px; height: 48px; padding-right: 8px;\"><\/span><\/td>\n<td><b style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\">Marcus Nelson (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcusnelson?refsrc=email&amp;s=11\">@marcusnelson<\/a>)<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"2\">\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcusnelson\/status\/705898362453667840?refsrc=email&amp;s=11\" style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><font color=\"#000000\">3\/4\/16, 3:30 PM<\/font><\/a><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\">My wife&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/emilyjo\">@emilyjo<\/a>&nbsp;captured my&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PressNomics\">@PressNomics<\/a>&nbsp;talk on&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23SayingNoToVc&amp;src=hash\">#SayingNoToVc<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23UnlessYourCompanyIsCrazySuccessful&amp;src=hash\">#UnlessYourCompanyIsCrazySuccessful<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/mElB5ZPqKz\">pic.twitter.com\/mElB5ZPqKz<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/image12.jpg\" alt=\"image1.JPG\" id=\"AD913D01-2E0F-4CFF-BD29-3423F5A1F695\"><br \/>Marcus Nelson, founder of Addvocate<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<table style=\"border:1px solid black;padding:8px;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr valign=\"bottom\">\n<td width=\"48\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/profile_images\/613751289587957760\/ZN0VKUOa_normal.jpg\" style=\"width:48px;height:48px;padding-right:8px;\"><\/td>\n<td><b>Larry Chiang (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/larrychiang?refsrc=email&amp;s=11\">@LarryChiang<\/a>)<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"2\">\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/larrychiang\/status\/705923129499979776?refsrc=email&amp;s=11\">3\/4\/16, 5:09 PM<\/a><\/div>\n<div>My mentees say <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23SayingNoToVc&amp;src=hash\">#SayingNoToVc<\/a> 11-15x before we say yes.<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23LaunchFestival&amp;src=hash\">#LaunchFestival<\/a><br \/>cc <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcusnelson\">@marcusnelson<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23sxsw&amp;src=hash\">#sxsw<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/QtLOwozd10\"><span>twitter.com\/mtkinji\/status\u2026<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>House money comes after you say no 11-15x. House money is the concept within treasure management where we are not under the gun. Taking VC before saying &#8220;No&#8221; by definition is being &#8216;under the gun&#8217;. For example, the VCs that funded you now may fire you. Another example is that you lose board of director control.&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>So now you might be thinking&#8230; Why would VCs keep asking after I have said &#8220;No&#8221;? Master these two Stanford engineering videos about entrepreneurship.&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=eudADPfTWiE&amp;sns=em\"><embed width='425' height='344' allowfullscreen='true' allowscriptaccess='always' type='application\/x-shockwave-flash' src='https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/eudADPfTWiE&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1' \/><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=WVKHwYJzVVc&amp;sns=em\"><embed width='425' height='344' allowfullscreen='true' allowscriptaccess='always' type='application\/x-shockwave-flash' src='https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/WVKHwYJzVVc&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1' \/><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);\"><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Larry Chiang Venture capital seems awesome. Like all houses, house has set the rules to win.&nbsp; Thus, we wanna play with house money.&nbsp; Does that seem contradictory!? Here is what I mean: Larry Chiang (@LarryChiang) 3\/4\/16, 5:02 PM I am advising&nbsp;#SayingNoToVc&nbsp;at least 11-20x before you later say yescc:&nbsp;@marcusnelson#sxsw. When you NEED the money, do [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6993","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-treasure-management"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6993","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6993"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6993\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6993"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6993"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.duck9.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6993"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}